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to raise taxes right now. you don't get enough revenue to deal with the deficit and by the way, we got 2.7% economic growth, which people were jumping up clapping about the markets were, but that's still pretty lousy. >> all of thatnventory build. >> that won't happen again u ben stein? >> one reason to raise taxes we have a 1 trillion dollar deficit, but igree with charlie, we've got to cut this noncess out how we need 50 billion of extra stimulus. look, we're running 3 billion a day of deficit spending, we don't even know if deficit spending is stimulative. we don't have to prove that th's stimulative. we're running such a huge deficit. unless he's a poker player and this is a bid to throw us off pace, that's not a serious proposal. we're not dealing with this seriously at 1600 pennsylvania avenue and he owes the population a lot more than he's showing. >> neil: adam, i'm worried that they make ahristmas tree out of this and throwing more and more ornaments because it's the next legislation that we're cobbling together we might as well put some spending in there. in this case, a minimu
not the federal government and me it a big and huge one and any little niche that you can knock down the deficit is good. >> okay, but john, what happens to the states. we are finding out that california is signing up for powerball because of the revenues that they get. is it bad for states. >> it is really bad for states. wayne has much chance of winning the lottery as geth throh a comment without johnathon interrupting. >> zero. >> and the problem you have with this. this could be a biion dollar jack mots and huge and going to kill the state lottos and in the stouthe states. they were sold as a way of funding education . that didn't happen. they are dependent on the general fund. cash strapped states that depend on the lotto, you will cripple the funding for the states is it a bad idea. it robs peter to pay paul. >> johnathon, you wouldn't be cutting wayne off. >> i am keeping quiet. wayne has to check his calculator. 580 million jackpot would pate zero.zero 3 percent of the national debt. we don't need a new plan to pay off theebt. we need a new philosophy and not exasbrate the debt. in a ful
citizens. >> we had address the drivers of the deficit, social security no not. >> social second has not added one penny to the deficit. >> senaaor reid and others have spoken out we'll not touch any of the entitlement. >> we should take social security off the table. neil: i could have gone on and on, many democrats are scratching any en tea entitlemes that includes social security, james roosevelt, i am wondering about this democratic resistance, we saw some cracks in that, as we saw republican cracks to taxes. you never know, to not have it on table or see it as necessary to address, it has to even worry a go i like you. >> it is good to be with you, again. yeah. social security should not be part of the deficit and tax discussion, social security did not as was said, did not contribute to the deficit. it is supported by the payroll taxes. that workers and their employers pay. >> you have seen, surveys that show the direct we're going, we -- the direction we're going we have moved its trouble date up, compared to other programs, that is prestine, my only point is why not put it ou
on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficit. jay carney broke new ground by declaring that the president does on spending cuts within the budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> can you also look in the camera and say dear democrats, both for and include some of the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. because that's not what they're doing right now. should they include this? >> yes, and i know that democrats except that this has to be a balanced package that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> yet months ago, that ws voted down 99 to zero. earlier this week, the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, insisted maj spending cuts and entitlement reform will not be part of these talks. nancy pelosi has been noncommittal about whether cuts will be in the deal. still, they are trying to breathe into the talks with vice present biden shopping avenue costco in washington, picking up a big-screen tv and an apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of the deal. >> i am. all these folks in the store. they are ing to make a difference. reporter: a p
-half in revenue and taxes. that leaves us with the deficit of one. that is the deficit. sizable it is. this will be the president's fourth for which he is personally responsible, fourth deficit in excess of a trillion dollars. president obama wants to plug that trillion dollars hole by raising taxes on household incomes, as we all know that have incomes over $250,000. the top 2%. that would bring in $802 million, $82 billion. that's about 8% of that deficit. so does that suggest we have a tax problem or, perhaps, a spending problem? think about this. taxpayers making more than $250,000 representing the top 2% paid more than 46% of all texas. that would seem like a pretty fair deal to most of us, but the president says it is not fair. we don't know what that number is. how much should it be? and contrary to what the president would have you believe as he campaigns untack sites all around the country and against the wealthy, he's doing a lot of that. the bush tax rates are not the root of our problems. in fact, individual tax payments rose, get this, $2,303,000,000,000 or 26%. over the
different economy. what we have now is 8% unemployment. very sluggish growth and a trillion dollar deficit every year. you propose to raise taxes in that environment and you're not going to get growth. >> don't you understand you need to off set-- if you're serious about debt reduction, i think you are, don't you understand you need revenue and spending cuts. stuart: and how do you get revenues. >> how. >> please, go ahead, go ahead. stuart: it's easy you lower tax rates and keep incentive to work harder. >> we've tried that. stuart: and you can't-- what. >> george bush tried that. look at the deficit we had. stuart: well, wait a minute you cannot rewrite economic history. after george bush lowered tax rates the return to the treasury, the money coming into the treasury went way up and the deficit, by the way, in 2007 was 167 billion dollars. >> so. stuart: president obama has got, 167 billion a month just about. don't rewrite economic history, julie. >> i'm not rewriting economic history. stuart: you are. >> i'm not-- >> i'm telling you if you lower tax rates you'll get more revenue. >> t
, for which we're responsible. there is a $1 trillion -- $1.04 trillion deficit this year, fifth year in a row we have this kind of number. we're going to, as folks used to say when i was a young fellow, this country's going to hell in a hand basket if we don't get our act together. >> and right now, we still have time. dollar's not falling. we don't have treasury bond yields soaring through the roof lou: the euro is rising against the dollar. isn't that embarrassing? >> that's not a concern to the administration or congress. lou: we should say to hell with the sound dollar. let's em brails strong competitiveness. last i looked at the trade deficit, we were, again, lagging and uke sucking popped water. there's a rising deficit stripping our gdp. >> and right now europe is in a relatively deep recession. we're still above water. lou: you jumped all over the punch line because you talk about things not making sense. folks, this is not making sense. i'm delighted because people have wealth left in the equities market, the bond market. how long will that be the case if we go over the cliff? >> won
't raise enough taxes to completely deal witthe deficit. and you do have to do reforms. you need to reform the tax system. you certainly need to make additional cuts. i do want to remind you though, that we have already voted on one trillion dollars of cuts, cuts that would cause great pain. i agree what you 100%. it can not be done. melissa: spending cutting numbers are even smaller than the tax numbers. they don't get us there either. i'm worried about stalling the economy. in the meantime when we talk about raising taxes and what it would do to small business. democrats like to point out we would only raise taxes on 3% of small business owners. >> right. melissa: but that 3% generates 50% of the inme from small business. so they're hiringhe majori of people. to me that is going to cost us jobs. >> well,ou know what? i think that what will cost us jobs for sure is if we go off thissfiscal cliff, because it is not just about ising tacks. it is also about the debt ceiling. it is about unemployment insurance. we have number of key issues that absolutely have to be resolved byythe end of the
but used that money for deficit reduction because he believed that would control the economy. president clinton did listen to him. and i'll tell you, i talked to bob rubin about that anecdote where clinton says you tell me a bunch of bond traders control the economy -- i'm paraphrasing -- and rubin said, yes, i am. i asked him about that once a couple years ago, and he said it was true. it wasn't as dramatic woodward made it out to be, but it did has happen. but you didn't get that out of geithner. you kind of don't think you'll get that out of lew. he's very much aligned intellectually with president obama particularly on the notion of fairnesses. you know, you talk to economistses. should we really be raising taxes now? no. hour hour tax increases, we're going to lose the deductions -- >> probably shouldn't be cutting that much. the economy is like in a very weird state right now, kind of like i think the notion is to grow it now, you know? and, you know, this guy doesn't see that. he sees raising taxes not as an economic efficiency so to speak, but as you know, you don't get a lot of
split right down the metal on the political ppll on how they want obama to cut the deficit. 41 percent responded in favor of spending cuts. 41 percent of respondents saying they favor tax increases. the white house says it will offer a counterproposal to house speaker proposal. saying that unless he accepts tax increases on the rich the president is willing to go over the cliff. let's get straight to the politics of these developments and the rhetoric and possible economic impact of failure to resolve the issues. joining as, former special assistant to president george w. bush, a veteran political consultants and republican pollster. let's start, if i may, with you. do you think both sides right now are seriously ready to go over the cliff? >> i think the president is very ready because they are reading into this election last month a mandate that i simply don't see. the president got 15 million americans to vote against him which fail to produce any type of meaningful budget in his democratic controlled senate. we are at the disco club because of the president's inability to ever a si
. government budgets that are in deficit at every level. there is no other backstop other than the organizations like us and others who are serving thess communities, and that it is important to understand that we have to take a fair and balanced approach. when announcing we all money to contribute to getting our fiscal house in order. we absolutely do, but we have to do it on the spending side and we have to like all the sources of revenue, all the source of revenue, not just a charitable deductions to figure out how to get our fiscal house in order. gerri: i don't know if it will happen by the end of the month. we have a long way to go. everyone seems to be talking pass themselves. thank you for coming on. appreciate your time. great information. >> thank you. gerri: likely be hurt the most of the deductions goal weight make up tonight's top five. food for the poor. based in florida using 97% of its billion dollars in revenue for its charitable commitments. for more information visit food for the poor. the american red cross which we have heard a lot about recently in the wak
it runs up the debt and deficit. >> the best thing for my children's future. i have two boys. one 10 years and one ten months and i'm worried about climate change and their future. we need to stop encouraging the industries that are causing this problem. the oil industry, gas and coal industries. and we need to start encouraging clean energy if we will solve it. the very first place to start is to stop giving these subsidies. it is a no-brainer. the vast majority of americans of all parties actually support this perspective. melissa: without affordable energy we have no economy and that is for sure bad for my children. we have no jobs. we have no industry. >> why is the fastest growing new source of energy in this country wind energy or distributed solar. melissa: because it is completely supported by the government and by my tax dollars. >> not even close to as much as --. melissa: absolutely no money to spend on these things you know what -- >> actually big oil, gas and coal are actually much more heavily subsidized. melissa: you and disagree what is subsidy is. that is fine for debate f
the deficit? same question as when should ben bernanke start raising interest rates. he told us there is 2014, inflation is not a problem. you don't see it. is that this a problem? why is the ten year treasury just one.6%? whar the bond vigilante's? no one worries about the deficit right now. they're worried about a slow-growth economy. cheryl: using markets have already priced in the fiscal cliff arguments but why do we see markets get so volatile when john boehner comes out, are almost afraid to see him talk again today because senator reid comes out and down and up. so much reaction. >> you can't rule out the risk that nothing is done and they don't reach an agreement and if taxes go up and spending is cut we will be in a recession next year. and employment 9%, we can't rule that out but it doesn't make sense to let that happen for the administration, the principal of punishing the wealthy is enough to allow the rest of the country to go into a funk doesn't make sense. cheryl: we see numbers and taxing the top 2% do nothing to deal with the overall deficit problem but you also think at the
party is being realistic about the enormity of the debt and deficit issue. what you just described is a very easy deal. it is sitting on the table, most of it is automatic. of the deal isn't reached in any case which is going to prompt something getting worked out but we need to cut about more than that. we are spending 23% of our gdpp federal government is, in one fashion or another and taking in 18% and that is not going to change all that much with the outlines of this deal. the democrats are not realistic about how much has to be cut and republicans are not realistic about how much taxes need to go. connell: the democratic side of it since we're speaking with you and delve into that a little more. if you are right about certain aspects of this, if dagen mcdowell and me can come after the president said he wanted the one$.6 trillion in revenue and say you wants $1.2 trillion because john boehner had $800 billion on the table last times those with the difference we are not exactly political geniuses all the respected political but anyone could have written that story and come up
rates for millionaires. are you kidding me? this will not make a dent in the deficit. here to disagree with me is christian dorsey from the economic policy institute. christian, thank you so much for coming back to the show. you are always a spirited debate partner. tell me why you like this. >> i'll tell you, melissa, to me this is not so much about the revenue that it would raise but about the message and principle it stand for, that we can't in this country have a situation where people are making millions of dollars effectively paying lower tax rates than america's middle class families. the principle of this, of this rule is actually what's most important. the revenue that it raises, it is important because it is not chump change but it is not in of itself going to change our deficit conversation but the principle is one that is extremely important. liz: but you're talking about wealthier people. well thinker people pay a higher average tax rate. everybody pulls out the stat that they want to look at. if you look at average tax rate of the top 1%, it is 23%, almost 24%. i mean, th
on whose estimates you look at we'll have a deficit 1.1, 1.2 or $1.4 trillion a year. >> yes. melissa: none of those things curb the spending we're doing. >> no, right. melissa: that is what i thought was shocking and distressing about crunching these numbers. >> you're absolutely right. the most important way to look at iscal cliff debate, the math is fine to go through it but the most important question in my mind will there be serious structural entitlement reforms. melissa: right. >> the kinds of reforms that will yield savings well down the road, even beyond, 10, 15, 40 year windows we're talking about. what are the structural reforms that would produce those kinds of results. those are only things we should be clear. the only things that would actually make a difference. the kinds of spending you're seeing to a great extent on the fiscal cliff and president's plan and lesser extent to the republican plan, largely discretionary spending cuts. a lot coming out of defense. these are not long-term structural changes that will put us on a path to a balanced budget. that will not happen. m
, in the end, the taxes are going up. we still have a trillion dollar deficit. this does not solve anything. at best, even if they raise the money they think they will, and i don't think they will raise any money, they are still left with a trillion dollar deficit. how are you going to bring down a trillion dollar deficit? i think the democrats are on -- i had to get that off my chest. stuart: gm car and truck sales are up 3%. the stock, dead flat. sales up 3%. that is the car sales numbers coming in today. steve, i want to get back to you here. the democrats say, wait a second, wait a second, you raise taxes on the rich just like the clinton did back in 1992 and you end up with a bill. you have a solid expansion. what do you make up with that argument? >> i hope they do not believe that argument. look, maybe barack obama is right. maybe if you raise these taxes, it will not hurt the economy. [talking over each other] stuart: bill clinton raised taxes and the economy took off. >> there are a lot of things that influence the economy. not just taxes. there are other things. there is no moneta
on military spending. >> absolutel >> and that is increasing and guess what, that adds up to the deficit, right? >> david, the probl is deeper than what you are describing. this goes back decades. when you look at entitlement spending over the last half century, it has steadily crept up four percent every year and that incdes adjustments for population growth. so what then? you increaseaxes four percent every year? that is absurd. at some point we need both parties to come together and tax this entitlement creep. we mention obama ape lot. he hasn't helped the numbers. but when you look at enment spending it goes up under a republican president. he can go in this and blame the republicans. >> i didt know there was a entitlement creep. maybe i got you wrorong. >> it is i an itch. >> and john, what about this. we have a budget if you can call it a budget that includes tax increases and no cuts at all from our treasury security. >> the tax increase aspect is ridickulous. we have a spending problem . you look at entitlements. i think it is i i don't they should exist. we did make promises and
real problem, the growing deficit on the path to greece, the goal gets worse once we kick the can away. that will be the overriding probleming not the slowing economy not people spending money, but sure, that might not happen in the first two months, but it will eventually happen if we keep kicking down the can. we want to prove to the world that we have a solution and if it takes a few months to get there and higher taxes for a while, big deal, we will get there. that's got to be the plan not just the same nonsense. >> yeah, but larry, that's part of your point, but jonas says we're not in a bad recession, we're certainly not in a good recovery. and if we just keep falling little bit by little bit, maybe as much as jump off the cliff, but it's certainly a slippery slope. >> brenda, the damage is already being done. we saw it in november retail sales and companies delaying activity already and we know the ratings agencies are minutes away, we're right to fix the problem in the long run than making a bandaid short-term deal. it doe't get recovery. >> we're going to get a bandaid deal an
achieved, but not meaningful debt or deficit reduction, no reform to entitlements, and i don't think there's tax reform. there's a deal in form, but i think there's more to get done. >> are we done? >> ask another if you want. >> do they really have to raise taxes? people accepted that's the outcome. >> i think that they need to raise revenue. how they do it, whether it's some tax increases or some limiting of deductions, but it shouldn't be hard to bridge a gap that's wider and wider. >> a matter of what it looks like, a given at this point. >> i think it is. >> higher taxes are coming. doug, thank you. ask as many questions as you want. >> you're generous with your time. >> that's what dagen does when she's here. >> she would be huck -- heckling you for your bad voice today. the supposed middleman in the debt negotiations throwing fire on the talks this week by saying nothing will get done unless republicans agree to raise tax rates on the rich. >> there you go. rich edson in dc with the latest on that. hey, rich. >> congressional republicans say the latest fiscal cliff shrugged off the
, and adopting a balanced approach to deficit reduction. and so it goes. my first guest says it does not matter who you tax or what form revenue takes him, taking more money at the private sector will hurt economic growth. joining us now, republican senator from the great state of kentucky from the senator rand paul. good to have you with us, senator. >> good evening. the president says we don't have enough time for tax reform or in thailand reeorm. you know my responses? we have been talking about this for two years. why haven't we done anything? i met with the president a year-and-a-half ago and i looke@ across the table in. i said in a we need to do something about social security. we need to do something to save medicare. they have done zero. how come there is no committee appear. d'agata washington. who is in charge of social security reform? nobody. everybody waits for a deadline and throws up their hands and says we don't have enough time. it is broken up here, but because they're not doing their job. lou: not doing their job, and whose job is it a much the republicans to start making so
's debt ceiling is clear. >> this is not about getting a handle on deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he has. >> white house aids reject the republican claims that holding the debt limit over the president's head is the only mechanism to get him to trim spending. >> you're just going to keep at the debt limit goes higher, you spend more money. you and congress, both. >> that's false. president signed into law a trillion dollars in discretionary cuts. the president has a specific proposal to achieve $600 billion in savings from entitlement programs like health care entitlement programs. >> jay compared republican pressure on the debt ceiling to a hostage taking. >> a profoundly bad idea that i think could not be more frightening for american businesses, and american workers. >> treasury secretary tim geithner may have frightened people yesterday saying the white house is prepared to go off the fiscal cliff unless republicans bend on taxes. a comment by former democratic potential candidate howard deen frightened republicans that the debate is not just about rais
in deficit in this state now for a decade and, i don't believe those promises either. there has been some cutting but it is cutting after there was enormous spending way beyond what was permitted by the constitution. i mean deficit spending is a violation of the state constitution. do they care about that in sacramento? they blow right by it. neil: but you don't think what is going on here now, governor, governor davis in a second, is a harbinger? in other words maybe voters here as they have elsewhere, rightly or wrongly are saying you know what? we cut a lot or tried to cut. we never make much progress on it. i guess only thing to do to avoid fiscal armageddon is just hike taxes. we hope it is not on us. we'll start going after the rich. >> that is number one class warfare. and number two you keep piling up the debt. ultimately you're in a position, as we are in today at the federal level, where most of the debt isn't even on the books. neil: that's right. >> i mean what is said to be the national debt is about one fifth of the actual national debt. neil: you're right. unfunded liabilit
-term cost of how it will really poisoned the well in these negotiations. we are talking about deficit reduction, and the president is proposing new spending at top of all the other spending. republicans going into the deficit reduction talks talking about another dividend tax cut is something like that. a very poisonous way to start since the negotiations between two sites. the second thing that is important here is how we are viewing these jobless benefits. the administration is firming in in terms of job creation. that is not what they are. gerri: this is a study they did it, extending jobless benefits would create 300,000 jobs. i had to read it twice to figure out what they were talking about . and it still made no sense to me. explain the contorted logic to work here. >> thee're saying by putting money into the pockets of unemployed people that will deal to spend it on rant and consumer goods which will create jobs in the real-estate industry in the retail industry. the problem is a does not take into account that the people have to look for jobs that would also be doing that. dou
. and a $500 billion down payment on the deficit and the debt, i think, is actually a nice piece of certainty for business so that they can plan for 2013 and 2014. it will mean an exceedingly weak first quarter next year, but i think throughout the year economic growth will get stronger. david: well, but, michael, on the other hand, sometimes if i'm certain somebody's dead, that won't bring them back to life. sometimes certainty is not necessarily good news. you say that the market is rather than on the negative side rather than on the positive side, and if we do go over the fiscal cliff, you see possibility of negative figures as low as 4%, right? >> well, let's put all this in perspective. i think what i mentioned earlier was the fact that the s&p is up about 6% since november 16th, and we've run into technical resistance with some the previous people mentioned, and i think the market's just in a period now where it could easily pull back a little bit. if you listen to the rhetoric coming out of washington, we had the everybody gave your hugs after the election, now they're throwing out the
a budget -- three years with a trillion dollar deficit. so we are talking about a problem that needs to be solved with massive spending cuts on the table. neil: i don't know what is really happening behind the scenes. but i do know that these overturesand hands that you get from the white house that the president is open and willing to consir spending cuts -- i don't know what the truth is. the other thing on this middle ground, the tax thing -- letting the difference of 37 or 38%. giving the appearance that there is a middle ground being found here, do you believe that? >> if you look at the middle ground and what is reported, they are giving specifics on taxes, but not stunning. they are saying that those tax cuts will happen 10 to 20 years from now. that is saying that congress at that time, 10 years from now, is going to agree with the spending cuts. listen, we are in this situation because coogress could not even agree on spending cuts your way when the sequester was going into effect and they failed as a super committee in november. they can't even agree on spending cuts. how d
deal. >> is a big deal because the way you eliminate a trillion dollar deficit is a billion dollars at a time. the wavy you get a billion dollars is 100 million or $10 million at a time. so what is our excuse? can we say that it is okay to waste money and hundreds of thousands of small areas that add up to trillions of dollars? or do we have to look at big areas? what i would put forward is congress isn't doing their job and how they write it and oversight it. i still pick up any of my feet on the ground because the penny is were 3.5 cents. anyone in america who is struggling today, we don't have the luxury of ignoring stupidity and waste anymore. charles: i have less than a minute. i have to squeeze this in here. you think we could be a transitional transformative point in thisscountry where it is okay? where it is okay to spend money we don't have? where the american public has given a thumbs-up to the idea? >> i do not think that they have given a thumbs up. i think this last election was about what was what will hurt our growth. but nothing in terms of discussion about the money
, 2012 it adds up close to where our deficit is. neil: a very good pnt. i wish we had more time. b s little time. more after ts. i ierrupt, you interrupt, and i ierrupt, you interrupt, and then you sende all sorts of you know how painful hearn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps blocktomach acid from splashing up- relievinghe pain quickly. t fast, long lasting gaviscon®. relievinghe pain quickly. 7,000 students droout every school day. that's a line of desks more than 4 miles long. keep students in school. visit boostup.org and take the firsttep. >> rememr the-mails abouttmy interruptions? i read it through of flurry of commons that interru y too much. that dot dozens of peopl fired . for thospeople w rate the mean matte are not. >> i love you bled if interrupting people was money would be a millionaire. >> how couldnybody
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